This is a part of the conversation that inspired me to create this blog.
January 28th, 2008CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I'm totally gonna start buying animeCatchFiveBats:
Oh?CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
YeahCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
first to build my collectionCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
and secondly to support the industry, cause it's doing poorly.CatchFiveBats:
Yeah.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Subs were good for it up to a point, but they are well past that point nowCatchFiveBats:
What?CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
fansubs, I meanCatchFiveBats:
mmmCatchFiveBats:
I think fansubbing is actually a pretty good way to get into real subbing, or dubbing.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Oh totally. I don't dispute that at allCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
but it's a double edge.CatchFiveBats:
I suppose.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
You would probably still buy an anime for collections cause that's you.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
But I know I wouldn't.CatchFiveBats:
I would honestly rather leave it to the fans.CatchFiveBats:
Fansubs are plenty good, and it keeps corporations out of it.CatchFiveBats:
Which is always, ALWAYS good.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I dunno. I'm cool with making money off of something you love.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I don't wanna make games so I can die poor XDCatchFiveBats:
I'm not talking about games, persay.CatchFiveBats:
That's an industry that couldn't stand without the support of big corporations.CatchFiveBats:
Not in its current state, anyway.CatchFiveBats:
But anime subbing and distribution could easily be done online, by the fans.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
But I've also come to love dubsCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
That's just me, though.CatchFiveBats:
Fuck that.CatchFiveBats:
No offense.CatchFiveBats:
But...fuck dubs.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
None takenCatchFiveBats:
I know I'm horribly biased, and that subs don't work for everyone, but fuck dubs anyway.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah, I knowCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
But for me, fuck screen cluttering.CatchFiveBats:
I don't think that's a problem.CatchFiveBats:
At all.CatchFiveBats:
But that's just me.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
It's not a HUGE problem for me either, but I can't say I like seeing the translated sub say "you must have great nakama, Ichigo." and then at the top of the screen say "* nakama = good friend"CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
That has ALWAYS bothered meCatchFiveBats:
Yeah, that's a stupid translation choice.CatchFiveBats:
They could have easily translated that.CatchFiveBats:
But some terms are so commonly used that it pretty much makes sense to just stick it in there and show the meaning up top.CatchFiveBats:
Then, in other subs, when you see the word...you'll know what it means.CatchFiveBats:
And you won't have to worry about the definition.CatchFiveBats:
I rarely have to look to read the stuff up top anymore, and it's not because I'm taking Japanese.
CatchFiveBats:
The only time I ever read it is when it's explaining a pun or a pop-culture joke.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
if it's a pun or a pop culture joke, it's even worse.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I hate a joke explained.CatchFiveBats:
Well, then what do you do?CatchFiveBats:
Just leave the joke out of the dialogue?CatchFiveBats:
That doesn't work.CatchFiveBats:
As a translator, it gets rid of a lot of headaches if you just explain the joke and leave it to the watcher to decide whether they want to know or not.CatchFiveBats:
Since it rarely has anything to do with the story.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah. But because it rarely has anything to do with the story, then it's also just as easily expendable. Not when there's visuals involved.CatchFiveBats:
I can see what you're saying, but it's not as big of a hindrance as you make it out to be.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Nah, it really never is.CatchFiveBats:
If I start to read the explanation and I don't really care, I leave it.CatchFiveBats:
Like I've said before, the people who are downloading fansubbed anime should probably know what most of those terms mean anyway.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah, but anime is no longer the hardcore hobby it used to be.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Now, my brother watches GTO.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
my sister watches HaruhiCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
and my mom and dad watch Eva.CatchFiveBats:
Well, then those people can watch dubbed anime.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah, that's why I say they're necessary.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Because they make it accessible for those that want it that way.CatchFiveBats:
That's fine, I can understand that.CatchFiveBats:
But for the people who are really into anime, subs are the way to go.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Yeah.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Those that are really into the nitty gritty, definitely subs.CatchFiveBats:
Anyone that can handle subs, should do subs.CatchFiveBats:
All the kids at anime conventions who go there to get autographs from their favorite English voice actors should be doing subs.CatchFiveBats:
That's the problem I have with it.CatchFiveBats:
It gives the wannabe hardcore fans a cop-out.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
whaddyamean?CatchFiveBats:
Dubs are easy.CatchFiveBats:
If you're gonna be living a hobby, you should probably not be going the route that's designed for casual fans.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
All the way or not at all you say.CatchFiveBats:
Yes.CatchFiveBats:
Which is how I have always operated.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
So essentially, you want the kids at anime cons to do it YOUR way.CatchFiveBats:
Perhaps...but I genuinely think it's the best route if you're really gonna be into the stuff.CatchFiveBats:
The whole dubs vs subs thing is why we have all these naruto kids.CatchFiveBats:
It's too easy to be labeled as an otaku now.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
It's a cool thing here.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Although....CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
...I dunno if I wanna be so ostracized anymore XDCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I know I did when I was youngerCatchFiveBats:
I like being ostracized.CatchFiveBats:
Ostracize away.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
Eh, I don't enjoy it. I don't care, but I don't enjoy it enough to deal with it all the time. I'd rather otaku was seen as a "not that bad" thing here than being a pariah like it is in Japan.CatchFiveBats:
I think the choice between your interests and fitting into society is what makes or breaks a true fan of something.CatchFiveBats:
But I'm crazy.CatchFiveBats:
And OCD.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
yeah XDCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
I'm just notCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
well, maybe I am crazyCantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
but definitely not that OCDCatchFiveBats:
Regardless, everything I say, even if it sounds like I want everyone to do it that way, is just the way I do it because I feel that's the right way.CatchFiveBats:
If everyone else did it like I did, I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing.CatchFiveBats:
I'd be doing something else.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
It'd be a bore to be the same thing everyone else is.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
That's definitely true.CatchFiveBats:
mhmmCatchFiveBats:
But I really do feel passionately about this stuff.CatchFiveBats:
So, despite all the points I've been making...let the naruto kids have their dubs, and make anime popular and everything else.CatchFiveBats:
I've found a hobby that would require a near restructuring of society to become popular over here.CatchFiveBats:
So, I'm good.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
No SHIT.CantSpellShotaWithoutHOT:
XD
So yeah...let the "OMG YOU DON'T WANT H!P IN AMERICA WTF" flamewar begin. XD
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